The Re4pers - Planetside 2 Outfit on Cobalt
The Re4pers => Public Announcements => Topic started by: TheBUNKSTER on 20/04/2015, 10:12
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Dear Re4pers,
we have some unwritten rules that need to be implemented into our standard ruleset:
1. Recruits are not allowed to open or lead a squad or a platoon unless there is a special permission from the outfit lead.
2. Soldiers are not allowed to open squads or platoons. They can take squad or platoon leads of existing forces when an officer is online and supervising them. When this officer needs to leave, the lead needs to be taken back and the squad/platoon needs to be disbanded
3. If there is not leading personal present, squads and platoons need to be disbanded. Use the slash command: /squad disband or /platoon disband.
These rules are important to keep the high standard we provide in our platoons.
Fear the Re4pers!
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hi Bunk
I started a re4pers squad on Sunday morning(mixed outfits and non outfits). this turned into a platoon. all the squad leaders where Re4pers and I had FelixtheLion as senior supervising over me. this was during a Hossin Alert where we lost by 2%. after Felix leaving I disbanded platoon. this was not requested from my side to open platoon, nor was there any permission granted from senior members to open a platoon. I did name the platoon accordingly as Reaapers on Hossin Alert.
please let me know if this was wrong of me/
if so I wont open one again.
Atomise
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Well, you are a longtime Re4per and I know that you have a lot of experience. The big question here is if you had a mic on and if you were able to speak to the platoon. Platoon and Squad Leaders should always speak to the platoon/squad... thats our standard. If you had a mic and felix was there, it was ok.
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2. Soldiers are not allowed to open squads or platoons.
About this part. Could it be possible for soldiers to open up Re4pers only squad and keep it re4pers only? Especially in daytime there are not so many squadleaders present and there are pretty well known soldiers who can take lead of a re4pers only squad.
In my opinion it should always be a squad, never a platoon in these cases.
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Problem is that this always gets out of hand at some point. Squad lead is shifting randomly and after some invites a bravo squad appears ... and no one knows how to close it and nobody wants to close it. It happens often that somehow these closed squad are open aften some changes of the lead. This is the start of the Re4-zerg-platoon. And we dont like re4-zerg-platoons.
I know it sounds hard, but these changes are the only way to maintain order and quality. You can play in other outfits squads till a re4 squad or platoon leader gets online.
When officers get online they should open a squad and call out in outfit for that.
EDIT: Of course you can have a squad as soldier, but only when an officers agrees to supervise you and you make sure to give the squad lead back to the officer when you leave.
Thx for your understanding.
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Well, you are a longtime Re4per and I know that you have a lot of experience. The big question here is if you had a mic on and if you were able to speak to the platoon. Platoon and Squad Leaders should always speak to the platoon/squad... thats our standard. If you had a mic and felix was there, it was ok.
HI Bunk
yea , i have been here a while to know what to do. Yes I did communicate with my microphone, and was in close co ordination with Command also( RammyRamsden).
was great experience I don't often get a chance to have, as you know I have wanted to be a squad leader for a while, but real life and Baby girl makes that opportunity hard, that's why I have not asked again to be squad leader. but It was so much fun, and grateful people following orders.
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If that was fun to you, ask in our platoons or squads if you can take the lead more often!
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will be asking alot more in future if the opportunity occurs (and I dont wake up everyone in my house at night) 8)
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So wait, is it still possible to take a squadlead in a platoon as a soldier? (Yes I know I'm a recruit now... I honestly can't wait)
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So wait, is it still possible to take a squadlead in a platoon as a soldier? (Yes I know I'm a recruit now... I honestly can't wait)
Yes, when as SL or PL is present and supervising you. Coordinate that in TS. You need to give back the lead or close the squad if that person went offline.
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@Karbooo - Train up with a SL/PL and just become a Squad Leader yourself, that way there'll be a squad leader online @Daytime :D
@MaringKaplan - If you mean taking a Squad Lead in an RE4 platoon, that'd be fine I think because there'd be a PL Leading anyway (When you pass recruitment stage) :) . Generally just ask PL in TS if you could have a shot as a SL whenever one becomes available - That's basically how to get (Most of) the experience necessary to become a full fledged SL anyway.
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Alright! Nice, I'm super excited to become SL and in time PL. But first, just one more week to become Soldier!
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Bunki? I´m officially no SL anymore. Only for the recruitment-job to promote or demote ingame. So I also can´t open squads? Or should I come back to the official SL job?
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Bunki? I´m officially no SL anymore. Only for the recruitment-job to promote or demote ingame. So I also can´t open squads? Or should I come back to the official SL job?
Gwyn, your position is special because of your special job. With your SL rank ingame you can open squads anytime, if you like. But unlike the other SLs you dont have to lead regulary. You are able to lead, you have the permission to do so but you are not forced to.
Thx for your awsome job as recruitment manager, by the way ;)
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...But unlike the other SLs you dont have to lead regulary. You are able to lead, you have the permission to do so but you are not forced to.
@DJKyzer, this bunks' reply is the reason why I don't wanna apply for official squadleading. I also wanna play casual and have some fun with re4pers especially at daytime. With official SL status you have responsibilities that I myself don't wanna have everytime I play. If I apply, I "have to lead regulary" and I'm "forced to do so".
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"With official SL status you have responsibilities that I myself don't wanna have everytime I play."
@Karbooo - Same here, the SL responsibilities would make it a lot less fun for me which is why I've never bothered, getting SL thrown on me occasionally isn't too bad but having it expected of me upon every login would get grating real quick - Though that's why I respect the SL/PL/OL's so much ;)
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Wait. I'm still allowed to open up and close private *cough*farming*cough* squads without anyones guidance, right?
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What? Why? What is the use of this rule? :o
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Wait. I'm still allowed to open up and close private *cough*farming*cough* squads without anyones guidance, right?
I think if u dont put a RE4 tag on the squad it will be fine. :)
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What? Why? What is the use of this rule? :o
Lot of time it happened that the leading of a platon got out of hand. Disconeted leader, log off...ect. So we got a random guy leading a zerg that wasc called RE4 platon...
We dont want that...U dont want that... 8)
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I agree. This is a way to guarantee quality. And I believe it only applies for squads and platoons with the RE4 tag, right? I could theoretically open a platoon without that tag, right?
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What? Why? What is the use of this rule? :o
Lot of time it happened that the leading of a platon got out of hand. Disconeted leader, log off...ect. So we got a random guy leading a zerg that wasc called RE4 platon...
We dont want that...U dont want that... 8)
That is exactly right!
We want to keep the official RE4 platoons as they are supposed to be: with a high standard. Open RE4 platoons should always have qualified leadership (or under it's supervision), in order to maintain this standard.
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So should those rules be written in a way that there's a mention of situations where you can use RE4 tag in-game?
RE4 tag + squad/platoon description standing out it's a RE4 squad/platoon -> official RE4 platoon/squad with qualified leadership
Without RE4 tag + no RE4 linked description -> just a random farm/having some casual playing style squad?
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So should those rules be written in a way that there's a mention of situations where you can use RE4 tag in-game?
RE4 tag + squad/platoon description standing out it's a RE4 squad/platoon -> official RE4 platoon/squad with qualified leadership
Without RE4 tag + no RE4 linked description -> just a random farm/having some casual playing style squad?
i would see it that way;
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RE4 tag + squad/platoon description standing out it's a RE4 squad/platoon -> official RE4 platoon/squad with qualified leadership
Without RE4 tag + no RE4 linked description -> just a random farm/having some casual playing style squad?
i would see it that way;
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So should those rules be written in a way that there's a mention of situations where you can use RE4 tag in-game?
RE4 tag + squad/platoon description standing out it's a RE4 squad/platoon -> official RE4 platoon/squad with qualified leadership
Without RE4 tag + no RE4 linked description -> just a random farm/having some casual playing style squad?
You will still be seen as a Re4per when leading it, with or without the tag. People that join will only think: "This re4pers platoon is so sloppy, the guy even forgot to set the tag. Oh my god... Even the re4pers leaders are noobs!"
@ XH0pe: I know you know the game well and I trust you to keep the squad private and disbanding it when you need to leave. You have a special permisson to have these small squads.
@ Atomise: Same for you. You have my trust.
And if you do, do it like this: closed + without RE4 tag + no RE4 linked description
But if we encounter re4pers-zerg-platoons again (open platoons lead by soldiers without any officers or even lead by recruits) I need to be more strickt and cancel these special permissions again. These platoons should not be around. Never! So if you see any of these, its in you best interest to shut them down!
We are working hard to improve our image. A single platoon like this can ruin the work of month.
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I agree with all this and I don't think it should be seen as negative.
If any Reaper wants to lead squads and/or platoons they can .. it's just that they have to become an official SL or PL first. I think I'm right in saying that no one has ever been rejected from SL or PL, but rather simply had to wait until they have received training, experience and have reached the right skill level. As such, I think we now have SL/PLs of excellent quality.
I also like the idea of the special permissions from Leadership for trusted brothers (and sisters) such as Atomise and xHope, since I believe our Outfit can be a little flexible with it's rules to ensure enjoyment for all.
Nix
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Sometimes I play in random open platoons and it happens I get to
be squad leader, either because the PL sets me (they never ask... :-X )
cause of my high BR or SL leaves and I was second in squad, or somehow
else. I never ask for it.
So when I "accidentialy" get to be SL of a random platoon I write some
squad description that makes sense and add something like "no RE4 platoon"
e.g. squad description: "Indar alert (no RE4 platoon)". Of course I don´t
set the outfit tag.
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What? Why? What is the use of this rule? :o
Lot of time it happened that the leading of a platon got out of hand. Disconeted leader, log off...ect. So we got a random guy leading a zerg that wasc called RE4 platon...
We dont want that...U dont want that... 8)
I don't think that this is a huge problem, I mean everyone can read and see that the platoon/squad leader is not from RE4. And do you mean to say that disconnections can never happen to official leaders? I understand that recruits should not lead a Squad/Platoon but a soldier should. Often I'm doing this when I'm alone on the server and need a bit of coordination.
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Unfortunately the case that a squad is led by a soldier or even a recruit is just one step away from (a squad with the description "Re4pers on ..." is led by a random NC).
For example: Yesterday in the evening, the Alert on Hossin which was a sign that more guys should start to follow their orders >:( was over.
After that 2 leaders of squads (one of them even a squad leader"But i don't want to tell names because they should know") left the platoon suddenly without looking for a new leader and in the end i had 2 squads with random leaders (both were not able to disband or at least to answer).
It's not impossible but annoying work to disband a platoon with problems like this.
It's all just to avoid problems like this.
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@TheBUNKSTER, @NixxonUK
Aww...thank you guys :`)
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I agree... It sounds stupid but I do agree that any squad led by a RE4 member should (or is supposed to) be a RE4 squad. I'm 100% for keeping quality high and not screwing up the RE4 name... Even if that means that I am banned from leading a squad (as a "mere" recruit) I think that the needs of the many overrule the needs of the few here... (I know this sounds more radical than it is supposed to but I think we all want this outfit to be known as the best among the best here)
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I'm a recruit, and yesterday, when I was going to drop ammo, a squad beacon came up, only then I realized that I was the squad leader, I looked at the squad and I was the only RE4 member. I could be blamed for not following the rules, but consider this scenario as real. The squad leader before me should have had to disband the platoon in first place or reorder it into less squads if there where not enough squad leaders.
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I'm a recruit, and yesterday, when I was going to drop ammo, a squad beacon came up, only then I realized that I was the squad leader, I looked at the squad and I was the only RE4 member. I could be blamed for not following the rules, but consider this scenario as real. The squad leader before me should have had to disband the platoon in first place or reorder it into less squads if there where not enough squad leaders.
yes. in the endm that's what he should have done;
but don't worry, if some sl/pl gets kicked out of the game and u get suddenly lead, cause ps2 gives it to u, u certainly wont get into trouble !! it's surely not ur fault in na case like that !
and when something like that happens, especially when it's for a longer peroiode then 5 min -> it's good to tell a officier or in the forum (like u just did) what's up and what's happend:
u won't get into trouble for "accidental leading" and the leadership won't write u up, cause they know what was up
with other words, good job so far!